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Season 1 Episode 23

Sandee Wilhoit. Historian, lead tour guide at the haunted Davis-Horton House in San Diego.
Sandee Wilhoit is a historian, lead tour guide, and resident ghost lady at the haunted Gaslamp Museum and Davis-Horton House in San Diego, California. In her interview with Stan Mallow, the Paranormal Yakker, Sandee explains the importance and historical significance of The Davis-Horton House, the oldest house in San Diego’s historic Gaslamp Quarter, and is on the National Registry of Historic Places. In her capacity as resident ghost lady at the Gaslamp Museum at the Davis-Horton House, Sandee talks about the many ghosts she has seen over the years, and the conversations she had with them. She also talks about the strange paranormal activity she and others, both fellow workers and visitors, have experienced. Sandee even reveals her connection to ghosts and the spirit world as a young girl.
Along with her colleague, Jamie Laird, Sandee Wilhoit organizes paranormal investigations at the museum. Those investigations, many of which resulted in not just orbs but full-body spirits photographed are detailed for Stan. Further, Sandee talks about which psychic phenomena and paranormal activity she witnessed that stands out most. In addition to talking about the Gaslamp Museum and the Davis-Horton House, Sandee talks about historical tours of the Gaslamp Quarter and the importance of the Gaslamp Quarter Historical Foundation. Its mission being to preserve the architecture, culture, and history for future generations.

Transcript of video Interview

Interview
Intro music.
Stan Mallow
Hi, everyone. I'm Stan Mallow. Welcome to "Paranormal Yakker." My guest on today's show who I'll be yakking with is Sandee Wilhoit, historian, lead tour guide and resident ghost lady at the Gaslamp Museum and Davis-Horton House in San Diego, California. Sandee Wilhoit, welcome to "Paranormal Yakker."
Sandee Wilhoit
Thank you, Stan. I'm happy to be here.
Stan Mallow
The Davis-Horton House is the oldest house in San Diego historic Gaslamp Quarter, which is on the National Registry of Historic Places. What is the historical significance of the Gaslamp Quarter? And perhaps, more specifically, the Davis-Horton House itself?
Sandee Wilhoit
The Davis-Horton House is important because it was the only home in which Alonzo Horton, the founder of modern San Diego, lived. It was also the first county hospital. And it was home for some officers for Army of the Pacific that were here then.
Stan Mallow
In your capacity as resident ghost lady at the Gaslamp Museum, I was wondering if you can recall how many ghosts you might've seen over the years and, by any chance, do you know who they are?
Sandee Wilhoit
Yes, and yes, and yes. Stan Mallow Oh, great.
Sandee Wilhoit
I have seen so many that, you know, I have lost count. A lot of times, because Horton did his business there, You see them just kind of walking through, you know, and you're going, oh. But there are some that do come and stay pretty regularly and have been seen by other people. One of them is the one we call the lady in black cause she wears an all-black dress. Now, she really likes to show herself to children, especially when I do the, you know, the children's tours, historical tours through the house. But I've seen her three times. My colleague, Jamie, has seen her. She mostly likes to stand at the top of the stairs. And when I do my paranormal investigation, and a lot of times when I'm just walking through the house, or just sitting at the desk, I turn on my little phone, you know, app. And they just talk all the time. My whole feeling is that everybody that lived in that house liked it so much that they just never left. And you know, I also get the doctor that came around, Dr. Stockton, when it was a hospital, all kinds of people.
Stan Mallow
You sort of explained the next question I'm going to ask you, but maybe a little bit more detail. And that is, how did the resident ghosts of the house make themselves known to you?
Sandee Wilhoit
When I first started working there, which was in 2008, towards the end of 2008, I'm a retired high school teacher. A lot of strange little things started happening. Like, things were moved. We'd get there in the morning and there would be something right smack in the middle of the floor. And then we hear a little bit, and you know, finally the executive director at the time called me into his office and he said, "Well, have these things always happened to you?" And I said, "Well, yes." And he said, "Well, let's see if we can't figure out what's going on." So he called in some paranormal investigators, and they showed me how to use equipment, and then I got my own equipment and boy, then everything started happening. They were happy to talk. I used an old obelisk pen. I have an app on my phone, which they seem to like a lot. If I don't turn it on, they'll say, "Phone." And I'll say, "Okay, okay," and turn it on. I used the divining rod. Like, Doctor Stockton, particularly, loves the divining rod. I use the K2 Meter, and then my colleague Jamie and I just got this new gadget called an EDI that the children seem to be especially fond of because it has different kinds of blinking lights. And sometimes they talk out loud, and that always gets your attention, I'm telling you.
Stan Mallow
Did any of the ghosts at the house tell you why they decided to remain on the earth plane instead of, you know, instead of evolving into the spirit world?
Sandee Wilhoit
I don't ask. I get the feeling, the inner feeling, that I'm not supposed to talk to them about that. But in the Davis-Horton House they have one room that's set up like a children's room. And I was just sitting up there with the obelisk, and I had other people there, too. And this little girl came through, and her name was Elise. And she said she was five when she fell out of the tree, but that's, you know, awfully sad. But nobody else has said anything. And I, you know, when I went down not that long ago, I was talking to Dr. Stockton in the parlor, you know, I had my app on, and I said, "Dr. Stockton, are you here?" And, you know, he said, "Here." And I said, "You know, I'm so sorry I haven't been down here in a while because we're having this pandemic." I said, "It's kind of like plague, and we're all supposed to stay home." And he gives me this bored answer. He goes, "I know." You know, like, stupid Sandy. Don't you think I know? So, apparently they're very much aware.
Stan Mallow
It's obvious to me from just speaking with you on what's happening there at the house, at the museum, obviously there's an affinity between you and the spirits over there. Cause they just don't manifest itself for anybody, and they're doing it for you. So I think that's wonderful that that's happening.
Sandee Wilhoit
I think it's because I've worked there longer than anybody. I think they're just used to me here or something. I mean, I don't know. I mean, you know, I think of 'em as deep, dear friends.
Stan Mallow
You are an historian, and obviously very knowledgeable about the era, and you love what you're doing and what's happening in that era that you are taking people tours on. Did you ever think, or, you know, maybe there's something to reincarnation? Maybe you were there at a certain time in history, and this is feeling very comfortable with you? And you're back with old friends that are home, or not? I'm just curious.
Sandee Wilhoit
I've always believed in reincarnation. I guess, I don't know if I lived there, but I feel very comfortable there. And years and years ago, like, this is, like, in the mid '70s, I did a past life regression, and I had a whole bunch of lives. And I know I had one in that time, but it wasn't in downtown San Diego. I just feel very comfortable there in that time. I wish I could time travel. I mean, even just for a few minutes, just to look out the window.
Stan Mallow
I did some research on the house and the museum, and so many beautiful things there, and the original staircase is intact. It's amazing, the staircase.
Sandee Wilhoit
Yeah, that's the one, you know, I'm glad you saw the staircase cause at the top of the staircase is where the lady in black likes to stand. And you'll like this, being from Canada. I was doing a tour for some Canadian surgical nurses. And I was standing in one room, you know, facing them, talking. And all of a sudden the lady in black walks across behind them, and one of the women went, "What are you looking at?" I go, "Nothing." You know, I didn't want to say, well, I didn't want to say anything, but you know, a ghost just walked behind you.
Stan Mallow
From all the psychic phenomena and paranormal activity you and others have experienced, is there one that stands out above all others and literally blows your mind when you think about it?
Sandee Wilhoit
Well, one of them, I mean, it was kind of funny. We figured out or when the, you know, one of the spirits gave me my nickname. We were sitting there and there were three of us in a row, three women. And we knew we were talking to George Deyo. So, you know, we kinda wanted to know, can you see us? One girl says, "George, what color is my hair?" The obelisk said, "Black." One girl in the middle said, "What color is my hair?" "Brown." Yeah, and I was the third one. I said, "What color is my hair?" And he says, "Cotton top." So, that's what he calls me sometimes. You know, it's an old timey name for a blonde. I like them all, you know. I can tell you a story about each one of them that I like that stands out. George likes to be on TV, too. He likes to talk and say his name.
Stan Mallow
Have you, or any visitors captured orbs of other paranormal phenomena on your tours?
Sandee Wilhoit
Oh yeah, yeah. We've even gotten photographs, you know, not just an orb. Kind of fun to watch real orbs go up the stairs, you know, that staircase. So, we've gotten actual photographs. As a historian too, the cool thing is that when they give me a name I have a resource to look them up, and not always cause there are a lot of people coming and going, especially when the house was a boarding house, but they'll say things, you know, so that you know that they were there at one time.
Stan Mallow
Well, the Davis-Horton House had a variety of residents over the years and served different purposes from residential home to hospital. I think its latest reincarnation serving as a museum and the headquarters of the Gaslamp Quarter Historical Foundation is probably the most noble one. I think that's important cause regretfully in the last number of years, too many historical sites to which have a history all over the world is just being destroyed to make room for and replaced with, you know, malls, parking lots and condos.
Sandee Wilhoit
That just breaks my heart when I see that. All of us at the museum, Jamie and I, and our boss, Brianna, and we are all so committed to that. And we also have a true, you know, historical reenactors. I'm one of them, of course. All the Gaslamp Players, where we go around to a lot of different entities, you know. We go to, you know, just anybody that wants us. People will tell us when we're doing our tours, "You know, I walked around downtown, or I came to dinner down here, but I never really looked at these buildings." And I tell them, and then just look in the door and what's up. They had some amazing blue fly. The architecture in the Gaslamp is stunning if you will stop and look at it. You know, it just, and we have, like, a fully restored 1880 Victorian storefront where I take my people in. It's a hat shop. Love hats.
Stan Mallow
I commend you for that. Now, should any of my viewers want to learn more about your tours, your paranormal investigations, the Gaslight Museum, and the Gaslamp Quarter Historical Foundation, how do they go about doing that?
Sandee Wilhoit
Well, they could go on our website. We're on all the social media. We're on YouTube, on Instagram. They can, you know, go on our website, Gaslamp Quarter Historical Foundation, or you can just type in Gaslamp Museum, and then it'll take you right to where, you know, our home page, and it'll say, take a tour, or it'll give you, like, some little blurb. You can also email me at at swilhoit@gaslampfoundation.org.
Stan Mallow
Perfect. I wanted to make sure you get as much publicity as you can because what you're involved with is so worthy. And I just wish more people in other areas of the country, of the world, would think the way you do, and the people that are around you, to preserve a part of history that, once it's gone, it's gone. And here, instead of reading about it in a book, they could see it up close and personal. Sandee Wilhoit It's so much fun. Everybody always says, "Well, I didn't know this," and, "I didn't know that." And, "This is amazing." You know, they were amazing back then, how they managed to do everything they did without the different technology and things we have.
Stan Mallow
Yes, and if you knew back then how real estate would go up, I'm sure you'd buy up a lot of property.
Sandee Wilhoit
Listen, I live downtown in the, right at the edge of the Gaslamp. And boy, my real estate has gone up in the last 20 years. I'm like, whoa, I'm not going anywhere. I still have people trying to buy this condo, and I'm going, it isn't for sale.
Stan Mallow
Sandee Wilhoit, I thank you for being my guest on "Paranormal Yakker.". I wish you much deserved success with your project. Hi, everyone. I'm Stan Mallow, the Paranormal Yakker. I hope you enjoyed the interview you just watched. It is my goal, my pledge, to always bring viewers of the show a great cross-section of guests from the vast body, mind, spirit, metaphysical and paranormal worlds. To be sure you don't miss any interviews on my free YouTube channel, all you have to do is press the subscribe button on your screen.