Paranormal Yakker with your host Stan Mallow

Click on Alicja Aratyn photo below to view video Interview



Season 1 Episode 17

Alicja Aratyn. Intuitive Dowsing.
Alicja Aratyn is the founder and owner of the Alicja Centre of Well-Being, a past Vice President of the Canadian Society of Dowsers, and is a member, lecturer, and teacher for the American Society of Dowsing. In her interview with Stan Mallow, The Paranormal Yakker, Alicja tells Stan when she first became interested in dowsing, and what motivated her to explore this ancient method of divination. Alicja also discusses the history of dowsing, telling us how far back in time dowsing can be traced, who used it, and for what purposes it was used. She also describes different types of dowsing tools and gives a demonstration of the correct way to dowse. Other topics covered are sacred geometry, and the influence it has on dowsing, and remote dowsing.

Transcript of video Interview

Stan Mallow
Hi everyone, I'm Stan Mallow. Welcome to Paranormal Yakker. My guest on today's show who I'll be yakking with is dowsing expert Alicja Aratyn. We'll discuss the history of dowsing, various types of dowsing tools and what they are used for. Alicja will also be giving a dowsing demonstration. Alicja Aratyn, welcome to Paranormal Yakkers.
Alicja Aratyn
Thank you, Stan, for having me.
Stan Mallow
Now Alicja, you are the founder of the Alicja Center of Well-Being, a past Vice President of the Canadian Society of Dowsers, and a member, lecturer, and teacher for the American Society of Dowsing. Do you recall the first time you got interested in dowsing, and what were the circumstances that sparked that interest?
Alicja Aratyn
Well, it's very hard to say when it started, because in my country, my country of birth, which is Poland, dowsing was and is, key being a very important part of many people's lives. So it's not that everyone dowsed, but very many people dowsed, and nobody would look at you as you were from out of this world if you pulled a pendulum and dowsed for something in the store. And from this point of view, I don't really remember when it started, but what I can say is that at that time when I was very young, there was not many courses, because spirituality was not very hot topic at that time. Therefore, I would, I met, I don't remember how I was introduced to this gentleman who was probably about 40 years older than me, and he was making pendulums. And it was fascinating to me. I knew how to dowse at that time, but I didn't know much about it. So my own spare time, or majority of my spare time, I would just go to him and observe and he would tell me how to build this pendulum, why, which works with energy, how it works, and how to put them together and so on. And that's how I learned not only how to dowse properly, but also how to build pendulums. So when I come to here to Canada, you know, fast-forwarding to today's life, I can chat and I understand why specific pendulums are built this way, and how they're supposed to work.
Stan Mallow
Now how far back in history can dowsing be traced? Do you know what people or peoples used it first? How it came about? And what purpose or purposes did they use it for?
Alicja Aratyn
Yes, so we can say that the first written materials comes from China, from about 4,000 years ago, when one of the emperors is portrayed in a drawing, but it's portrayed, he's portrayed with the stick, which reminds us of today's Y rod, which means it goes like this. It's a branch of the three. And he holds it with both hands. Now in China it was called Geomancy, or Feng Shui, as we know it today, and it was more directed into environmental stuff, which means how to organize, where to place your house and so on. So that's when they were using dowsing rods more than pendulums, all right? In Europe, it is said when I was studying it, that the very first dowser on the world was Moses, because he was walking with a stick, and when he was taking his people through the desert, he could find the water with his stick. So he had a staff and he kind of punched the ground, and then water came out. From Ancient Egypt, we know that staffs, because many gods and goddesses of Ancient Egypt are portrayed with a staff, they have two prongs and a bottom, but when you look at them, those two prongs are really to distinguish between the type of energies, because there can be an energy which is positively charged, and negatively charged. So it's about two energies, male and female. So we can say that he knew, because he felt where the water is, and he pushed it, and then the water emerged. Those are the first things. But also in Greek mythology, you have the myth of Pythia. And Pythia was a title for a woman who were visionary, they could see. They are called, here on this continent, they are called the Prophet of Delphi, I think. And what they were doing is they were sitting in a cave, and talking and answering the questions, and people would come from all over the place to have their questions, their problems solved, and their questions answered. Now, we know from the pictures on the walls of the cave, is that Pythia would sit on high stool and have some object suspended over the big vase with the symbols at the edge of it. And this object would point in some symbols, which either she read or she had a vision based on it. Because now when geologists really explored those caves, they found out that there is a fault, there is a breakage in the floor, some kind of vaporizer, the gas, are coming out of it. And therefore, they presume that Delphi, that the Pythias, who were sitting there, she would inhale this, which altered her state, and she also could have a better vision because of the altered state. But this way or the other, she was using, because there always one Pythia, she was using the pendulum, what we would say today, to enhance her readings and finding her answers. So those are the oldest, really. And of course we have the pendulums, which were bronze, and found in the Great Pyramids of Giza.
Stan Mallow
As you know, Alicja, as I know, as I'm sure every Paranormal Yakker viewer knows, we are in challenging times today. The world is not in a good place. How can people use dowsing in dealing with these challenges in their everyday lives?
Alicja Aratyn
Every change in the world starts with individuals. So before we will start to change the world, because people love to say, 'I would like to change the world.' All right, so what about you? Because we vibrate energy. We, as Buddha said I think, be the change you want to see. But what it is is that first of all, we need to look after ourselves. And we look after ourselves in two ways. First, we clear ourselves. And it is crucial to any further progress in our spiritual or human development. So, when we clear ourselves then we can clear our home, and we can clear our community, and we can clear the city, and the country, and the whole world. But we always start with ourselves. As Bruce Lee said at some point, he said that words have power, and they work like a spell. Every word is a spell. And that's why writing them is called spelling. So remember about this, because whatever we say has potential to happen. So you can simply hold your pendulum and say, 'Please remove from me, or from my energy field, all non-beneficial energies.' Or, 'Please remove from me, or please remove all non-beneficial energies from my energy field.' And it starts to go counter-clockwise, because it follows the vortexes of the earth. Which means, one vortex is moving to the left, it's left-turned vortex, which creates a suction, which removes from you everything what is not beneficial. Now, when the pendulum stop, now I will say, 'Now please supply me with the frequency of God, to the highest possible level, for my highest good, and the good for all.' And then, as you could see, the pendulum switched into the clockwise direction, not because it's yes or no direction, but because the vortex which rotates to the right, clockwise vortex, is the vortex which supplies. And then it when it stop, the basic idea is this, you remove something, and you create a void in your energy field, because something was taken away. People often ask me, 'How often should I do it?' My rule is, the rule in my life is, because I'm an engineer, I like still to think this way, so I always say to people, 'Simplify the complex.' So do it whenever it comes to your mind, it's a process. So you follow your intention, and then you are more and more in agreement, compatible, in compatibility with the energies which come to you, and you become more and more sensitive, and then you will either see or feel.
Stan Mallow
You are knowledgeable in many areas. Sacred geometry being one of them. And you have connected Sacred Geometry to dowsing. How are they connected? How does Sacred Geometry influence dowsing?
Alicja Aratyn
Well, Sacred Geometry came to dowsing on the 1930s, when French scientists came to Egypt after Howard Carter, Carter's discovery of Tutankhamun's tomb, and they started to research artifacts. And they found out that they have extreme power, in the sense that they vibrate the energy. One of the pendulums found in the Great Pyramid was this, and this is called Isis. And it was exactly found like that. So scientists first didn't know what it is. Of course, dowsing existed, but not like this. So they researched this, and then they found another two pendulums, which are, those three are called Egyptian pendulums. The other ones are called Osiris and Karnak. One of them was built over there based on what they learned, and this is Osiris. And Karnak was also found as a pendulum used by Egyptians in Ancient Egypt. And they found out that there are specific rules, which were known in Ancient Egypt. Then because of the history disturbances and sacred societies and knowledge not being spread, but also Dark Ages and so on, so it all disappeared from human eyes. The only place when it still existed was architecture. When Golden Proportion was known, that was all that we knew about gold, and frequency of gold, or vibration of gold. And then it re-emerged now, from 1930s forward, and then we know based on those, how to build the tools which radiate on Sacred Geometry. For example, in this pendulum, there are three of the most powerful shapes of Ancient Egypt, Sacred Geometry shapes. So if you were to look at the shadow of it, because shadow is two-dimensional version of three-dimensional object, so you will see here that that's the circle, those are hands, kind of, and this part are the legs of the shape known to us as Ankh. Then, this shape, those four amplifiers, on the main core kind of axis, is called Djed, and Djed is a very, very important shape in Ancient Egypt. We don't have time to talk about it, but they had a special ceremony which was called Raising the Djed, in order to energetically clear the energy. By the way, the concept of Djed, until today, is used in car batteries. So, here is the Djed. So, energy which was created by Ankh was energized, or is until today in pendulums, energized by Djed. This is called Djed Pillar, to be exact. And then both of them are connected by the third, which is a core of all this, goes along the axis, which is called Was. Was is a staff, and we mentioned about the, Moses having staff, and a staff is simply a cane. When you look at the drawing from Ancient Egypt, the papyrus and so on, you will see that majority of gods are portrayed with the staff in their hand, because it's a symbol of power. So here you have the staff connecting those two. This type of pendulums we called self-clearing. Therapeutic pendulums are always self-clearing. So, that's here for example on this, you will have the Atlantis symbol of protection, which is carved on the top of this pendulum, which was found in King's Valley in Luxor, actually in King's Valley in Egypt, in a shape of the ring. So this is Atlantis ring. So you have those shapes incorporated, and this way the people do not know, and they don't have to know, but for us it's important, and from time to time, I take, randomly take a pendulum, and we do the, also thanks to you of course, we do the energy reading, which means aura photo, either on pendulums, of pendulums, or the people after using this, so before and after, to see how it influences the human aura. Because I can talk until tomorrow about how fantastic they are, but only when I can show people the pictures, 'This is me before, and this is me after,' then people will really see the energy. Now, after a pendulum, a therapeutic pendulum, has an element of it, so if you will look at this pendulum, which is called Mer-Isis as I said, it's good, it's know for healing, removing pain abilities, then you see here the rings of Isis inside. Those are amplifiers. The energy is created by this, but it's amplified by those three rings of Isis. So you know, those are indispensable for us, shapes. And we are so, or should be, so grateful that this knowledge emerged again, and we can be wiser, and better because of that. And that's, also this era, when we want to know, not only believe.
Stan Mallow
Remote dowsing is another area you are quite knowledgable about. For what purpose or purposes would someone use remote dowsing?
Alicja Aratyn
Well, remote dowsing is, by the definition, to affect something which is farther away. Father Mermet, who developed first, a remote dowsing pendulums, or Witness Chamber Pendulum, which is called Mermet to his memory, it is Father Mermet who developed the first pendulum which we call a Witness Chamber, which means the compartment inside the pendulum to put something in, which is called Mermet in his memory, always was telling us that every dowsing is tele-dowsing, which means at-distance dowsing. That's why in Europe it is called Tele-radiesthesia, which means affecting from distance, because either the distance is small, like here, or large like the past, creating the future. It doesn't matter how big distance it is, practically every dowsing is a remote dowsing. It's a matter of how big the distance is. So, a remote dowsing is, for example use, when you want to find a location of the house, if you would buy a piece of land and you want to know where a water flows, or how to position your house, then you will take a pendulum, the best pendulum for it is called Tele-radiesthetic, which means it has seven grooves on it and it can read frequency by frequency the land, or the area, and tell you what qualities of energy are there by, you would scan the map of the area which you buy, basically, going like this, scanning, to find out where it's supposed to be located, what is the best from her point of view, location for my house on this. And then of course, based on the rule 'never presume, always check,' when we narrow down the area, we go there, and then we dowse exactly where it's supposed to be, in nature over there. So, that's one application of remote dowsing. But very much interesting part of remote dowsing is also influencing the , and that's what Father Mermet was doing, and that's what his pendulum is made of. So, for example, if my client would like, your mother, father, family member, would have a problem, let's say for kidney, with kidney, you can find out either through the medication they use, or supplements they use, or by your own knowledge, what can be the substance, what substance we can do, to effect, improve the health state of this organ. We can put it inside a pendulum, and have for example, a picture of this person, hold it over the picture, and say, with the frequency of whoever it is, 'Balance, heal and balance,' let's say kidney. 'Left kidney, right kidney,' it depends. But you go by one, and then you effect, because both of them can be, each of them can be on different levels. So that's very important and extremely interesting part, to, about working with substances, not only with energy. That's why this type of pendulums, or therapeutic pendulums, either gold one or white one, we call General Hue. Which means you can approach from the energetic point of view, you can approach any condition. Those, which we are called substances, are dedicated, because of the substance inside, are dedicated to solving just one problem, the problem on hands which we want to solve. So that's the remote dowsing and it's fascinating, really. Very much underestimated right now, unfortunately.
Stan Mallow
Could you please give us a demonstration, to our viewers, of how one dowses?
Alicja Aratyn
So the first thing would be, and I know that many pendulums are made, on, with chains, we don't make them with chains, because chains, from again, Sacred geometry point of view, is made from the element. And every element of the chain radiates something. So if they radiate something, then this energy ends up and can influence the reading. So, in Europe, traditionally pendulums were always made on black string, because black is an absence of color, and this string is 100% cotton, so the energy flows, that can flow very easily and straight. All right, on our pendulums you also have something which we called slider, which means this, it is a , which be be moved back and forth to mark your wavelenth. So the first thing we do is we find our wavelength, which means you will hold the pendulum as close to the bottom of pendulum as possible. In your mind, you have the request, 'Show me my wavelength, show me my wavelength.' And of course I will say it out loud, but you can repeat it in your mind. So, 'Show me my wavelength,' and as you will see, I will walk the string, which means I will not drop it, I will just move my fingers. And in my mind, there is this question, 'Show me my wavelength, show me my wavelength, show me my wavelength,' and when it starts to move, even with very small movement, it means it hears you. It says, 'Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you now, I hear you now.' Then you hold it here and bring the slider down to mark your wavelength, because the purpose of dowsing is really to talk to yourself. Because even if you talk to universe, you talk through yourself. The energies pass through your body and ends up here. In order to hear you, you have to make sure, like radio specific station, you, your mind, has to be tuned in with the subtle bodies of energy, which will allow you to hear you from inside. All right? So when I'm on my wavelength, now I can, first thing is to say, 'Show me Yes,' it arrives very fast to me because I have it imprinted, kind of, in my whole energy field. But first, you say, 'Show me Yes, show me Yes, show me Yes. Show me the Yes direction.' Don't allow, do not allow your brain to run the show, and you allow it by following the line. So, I see on the piece of paper that this is Yes, and you say, 'So this is Yes, show me Yes.' That is when your brain see this and will decide how to move the energy from Yes, but what will happen if your brain does not know the direction it's supposed to move the pendulum, now it's hectic movement, and people say, 'My pendulum is lying, or does not give me the answer,' but when you will say, 'Show me,' you are as, it's like you would say to your energy system, 'All right, I'm fine with everything. Just show me how you would like to communicate with me. So show me the Yes direction.' And every time when you say 'Yes,' it's like you drop the piece of energy down the line, to build the energy and build the momentum, and pendulum will start to move. So if I would say, 'Show me Yes, show me Yes, show me Yes, show me Yes,' it starts to move. For me, it's clockwise. And then you say, 'Thank you,' you don't catch it. It doesn't go anywhere. You just say 'Thank you,' and it stops. And then you say, 'Now, show me the No direction. Show me No, show me No, show me No, show me No.' And it starts to move in some other direction. For me, it's counter-clockwise. For you, it can be that way, and this way, or a combination of those two, all right? When you have your wavelength, and your Yes and No movement, then you can go proceed with your dowsing. I always say to people and teach, the way we were taught, what I teach is, use statement instead of question. Because when question, you ask the question, the neural cortex is very busy, it is built to analyze and give answers. So, it's a very uneasy situation. It has to, and it's hectic energy. When you say something, it's ready-set, it's quieter, your mind is quieter, so if you can turn your every question into a statement, you will be a lot better off. So, for example, if I have this pendulum here, and I'm on my wavelenth, and don't forget, everyone and everything has a wavelength, so if I would like to send energy to Stan, I would have to find Stan's wavelength, not mine, because I have to communicate with his body, not with my body. All right, but from now on, I go work with, on my wavelength, with my question. So, for example, if I were thinking about my son, and I will ask, 'Does he love me?' and it says, 'Yes.' But I can say, 'Tom loves me,' and it moves in the same direction, because it gives me the confirmation, or if it would be, 'No,' then it would go into my No direction, and it would show me that there is no compatibility between my energy and energy of what I say, all right? So it's either confirmation of your statement, or lack of confirmation of your statement. And for example, if I would like to heal my body, then I would say, 'Through the frequency of gold, balance my whole energetic system.' And you just simply wait until it would start. And then, if I were to repeatedly say, 'Balance my whole energetic system,' it barely moves, and again, 'Balance my whole energetic system,' it doesn't move at all. What is going on here is that when I need the energy, and I will bring over my hand, which is a receiving point because here is a hand chakra, which absorbs the energy, then from this chakra, this vortex opens up. And the vortex rotates to the left, because it wants to take the energy and bring it into me. That vortex is addressed by the movement of the pendulum, because it kind of makes the pendulum to move, to follow. So the pendulum reads how this vortex whirl, vortex swirl, and start working opposite direction to fill the gap. And as I'm giving me, or you, the energy, the vortex becomes smaller and smaller, and finally when you are satisfied, which means you have enough for now, it closes. Then, it creates, in turn, it creates smaller and smaller movement of energy, of pendulum, and then finally pendulum stops to rotate, because there is no calling for energy, therefore there is no energy coming for now. So that's how you work with here, you can, you can work the same way over the hand, over the hand of other person, you can work being actually over the organ when you have someone lying on the table, you can work through the picture as a remote dowsing, and say, if I would have your picture, I would put it on the table, and say, found your wavelength, and say, told it, say 'Supply Stan, with the frequency of gold to the highest possible level for his highest good,' and it moves because I see you on the screen, so I am connected with you, all right? And as we are talking and exchanging thoughts and ideas, of course our energy level gets depleted, and therefore, we need the energy to come back to the regular level. So you can work remotely, you can work on this spot, you can find answers to your problems, which means for example, if I would like to work on financial markers, then I would say, that's actually what I do when they come to the show. Everyday in the morning when I come, and then you come also, earlier, so we know how it is. It's quiet in the room and I sit there, and I clear my table from all the energies which were, you know, left there from yesterday. The next step is I would elevate the energy, the level of energy of my booth. So I would supply this booth with the frequency of gold to the highest possible level, for the highest good of all concerned, in this case. So my client will be happy with the product purchased, because I don't want people to purchase our product, go and complain. I would like them to maybe buy it, but be happy with it, all right? So that would be the next step, and you can do this with everything. And then I would say, 'Okay, so let's see how much money we will make today.' And then I go, 'Thousands,' Yes, No. 'Hundreds,' Yes, No. And then, so first I would develop the unit. And then, let's say thousands, and I would say, 'One,' Yes. 'Two,' it still rotates clockwise. 'Three,' and it says, 'No,' and I would drop one level less. And I would say, 'Twenty-nine,' No. 'Twenty-eight,' Yes. So, $2800, for example, all right? And then if you want lower unit, then you go one lower, higher and then you go, I don't remember how much it was, let's say 2028, then 2020, and so on. This is also my exercise, okay? And then I say, 'This or something better will come my way, because on the other hand I don't want to limit my brain, that that's the verdict, and I will not accept anything more, all right? So, this type of thing, if you have a medications, you can hold it over first, you hold it over and see, let's say that's the medication, it's a water with lemon, but I can hold it over, of course you have to find it now, the wavelength of this water, and then first of all, what it will show you is how the vortex, what is the vortex which comes out of it. And this one rotates to the right, which means there is a life force in it. If it were to rotate to the left, it's artificial. And then I can say, 'Let's count the amount of drops I have to take,' if it's a liquid, if it's a vitamin, nutrient, or something. Again, you count one, two three, until it will say, 'No.' So if eight is No, then you should take seven. Those are the basic, basic usage of pendulums in your everyday life. And as I said, if you were to talk to it as you talk to your friend, when you have friendly conversation, 'Let's do it together, let's heal this person, let's find out how many drops or how many pills should I take, show me.' Or just say, 'He loves me.' Or, 'It is beneficial for me from the financial point of view to attend this event.' You can always state it instead of asking questions.
Stan Mallow
This has been very, very informative. Now I'm sure many of my viewers would like to learn more about you, the courses that you give, your product line of dowsing tools and pendulums. Should they ever want to contact you, what is your website? And if you wanted to give a phone number, that's fine too.
Alicja Aratyn
Wonderful. So my website is www.intuitivedowsing.com Intuitive because it's an intuition element, and dowsing. So intuitivedowsing.com My telephone number is 905-848-1233. We are located in Mississauga, which is outskirt of Toronto, in Ontario. So, everyone who would like to, I invite you to join us, or reach out to our website. We also have a YouTube channel on which I post videos about dowsing and spiritual development, because dowsing is really the excellent tool for spiritual development. It's your best psyche, and what I can say, if you know more about dowsing, and you can talk mainstream language, which means people are not checking out, because you talk all around chakra and all this which people do not understand, but if you understand it, and can explain other people in simple words, then I always say that dowsing is contagious. It really, really brings people to wanting to know more, and using it because it can be your best friend.
Stan Mallow
Alicja Aratyn, I thank you for being my guest on Paranormal Yakker, and for sharing your extensive knowledge about dowsing, thank you.
Alicja Aratyn
Oh, you're very welcome, it's my pleasure, and I wish you all great success and peaceful life.
Stan Mallow
Hi, everyone. I hope you enjoyed the interview you just watched. So you don't miss any upcoming shows, be sure to subscribe to my YouTube channel. I would love for you to join me and my guests, as I yak with them on Paranormal Yakker.