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Season 1 Episode 5

Victorian Era Macabre
Seika Groves is a paranormal investigator, a professional psychic medium, and holds degrees in Anthropology and Battlefield Archeology. In her interview with Stan Mallow, The Paranormal Yakker, she comes dressed as her elegant Victorian alter ego, Missus Mooney, the Mistress of Macabre. Seika discusses with Stan a number of topics. This includes her Cabinet of Curiosities and the Victorian Mummy Unwrapping she has done at numerous museu<br>ms. She also displays for the Paranormal Yakker audience a 2,000-year-old mummified Egyptian Cat that is part of her vast collection. Seika conducts Haunted History Tours and explains why she chose the locations she did to have them. We also learn of other exciting ventures Seika will be undertaking.

Transcript of video Interview

Stan Mallow
Hi everyone, I'm Stan Mallow and welcome to the Paranormal Yakker. My guest on today's show, who I'll be yakking with, is Seika Groves. She is an amazing lady, a true renaissance woman, in every sense of the word. Seika, I welcome you to the Paranormal Yakker and I thank you for coming here dressed as your alter ego, the fabulous Missus Mooney, the mistress of macabre. When did Missus Mooney become part in parcel of your persona and what circumstances led to it?
Seika Groves
Well, when did she become part of me? I think she's always been a part of me but sort of bringing her to life in terms of what I do now would've been about 2008, so I sort of jammed all of my love of archeology and history and all things Victorian macabre into one nice little package of Missus Mooney and now that's how I present.
Stan Mallow
And you made her proud.
Seika Groves
Yeah, thank you, thank you.
Stan Mallow
You really look great. Now, you hold degrees in cultural anthropology and battlefield archeology. Those are fields of study I'm sure your school guidance counselor did not recommend you pursue, but you obviously did. What motivated you to enter those areas of academia?
Seika Groves
Well yeah definitely no guidance counselors there. When I went to school it was you know, office work, secretaries, you know, dental assistant, those kind of things. I kind of blame my mother for that because I grew up within the walls of the Royal Ontario Museum, she did some volunteering there, and my brother and I were always there as kids and we've got photographs of me as a little toddler sitting on
Stan Mallow
which now you can't do
Seika Groves
the large carved camels that are part of the Asian Antiquities department. But back then, there's pictures of me, there's a very interesting picture of me and unfortunately the person that's holding me, you can't see his head, but it's actually Neil Young.
Stan Mallow
Wow!
Seika Groves
Holding me up over top of the natural mummy in the Egyptology department. So it was back in the days with the village and everybody in Yorkville and all the musicians and that so that kind of dates how old I am.
Stan Mallow
I think it was a good time, it was beautiful.
Seika Groves
I don't remember it, I was a little kid, but yeah.
Stan Mallow
Sure but you're still a part of it.
Seika Groves
I was still a part of it.
Stan Mallow
And probably was all part of it too without realizing it.
Seika Groves
Quite possibly.
Stan Mallow
Now, you are a historical expert on the Victorian macabre.
Seika Groves
I am.
Stan Mallow
Why this connection to the Victorian era and specifically the macabre aspects of it, do you think it had to do with a past life reincarnation?
Seika Groves
Huh, past life. I don't know about past life, but from the interesting things that have been happening recently in terms of us doing our genealogy, I've discovered that my father's side of the family spent almost all of their lives in the west end of London, involved in theater. And so this is in the Victorian era...
Stan Mallow
Yeah.
Seika Groves
So I kind of wonder where that came from. I always wondered why I loved theatrical performance and why I loved sort of that sort of dark London thing with the Victorian macabre and it could very well be a DNA-forward as opposed to a past life, I don't know, but it really is a thing that I love and it seems to be mostly rooted in some areas of London, England. And just the Victorian period. While I love the Rococo period and the Georgian period, I'm just fascinated with everything from the Victorian and I think it's because of their open-mindedness as well. As people who were very close to death all the time, you know death was just an everyday normal thing and they didn't treat it the way we treat it now. People were very close to it then, you didn't have funeral parlors and funeral homes and all of those kinds of things so when someone passed away in your family, the viewing took place in your home and all of the rituals and things that surrounded that took place within the family instead of today where it's very separate from who we are now. It's kind of, you take it outside your house and you invite everybody over but it doesn't have that closeness. There's not really a ritual anymore either to it so I think during that Victorian period there was a lot of disease and death and new innovative things too, there was this real sort of balance of the death and there was this new science and all of these medicines and things that were propelling forward. So for me that's very fascinating.
Stan Mallow
Did those customs, did they travel over the oceans? Or was this specific to England?
Seika Groves
You know I think some of them probably come from a melting pot obviously, at that time period London had been a melting pot for centuries. But I think that some of those things, I mean you'll find it in Scotland too, in a lot of the places in Scotland, Edinburgh in particular, they have sort of a very closely identified macabre element to that time period as well but I'm sure if you went to Prague or maybe even Vienna and Austria and that too, they have all those things also. I think it's more the time period as opposed to the what location people were in then, it was just again that closeness to family and death and not having modern conveniences like we do now in terms of funeral homes and stuff. So those kinds of things took place in private, behind closed doors, and we were still fascinated with what those things were.
Stan Mallow
Yeah, you for sure.
Seika Groves
Yeah, I know I am.
Stan Mallow
And you're spreading the knowledge, which is great. Now, you own a cabinet of curiosities.
Seika Groves
I do.
Stan Mallow
That contain an incredible collection of macabre artifacts. What is some of the more unusual items in your collection, and after you've mentioned some of them, I know you have gifted us over here by bringing one of them here.
Seika Groves
I did, I did, so... I do have a very kind of vast collection in my cabinet of curiosities, it's really what I think people in the Victorian era would have most been fascinated with. So that's how I've built my cabinet, it's those things are fascinating to me but it's also what would Victorian people have found fascinating in a cabinet? So for instance I have a natural history selection which has everything from six inch centipede to mounted taxidermied bats to seashells to seahorses and little blowfish and those kinds of things, because in that time period those things were very exotic to people and they didn't get an opportunity to see them unless they had money and they were able to travel but for the most part many people did not get to see a nautilus seashell or a giant conch shell or anything like that. I mean, they may have seen mussels and clams and scallops because that was part of the diet but those sort of exotic things like little dried taxidermied fish and things like that. So I have that, I also have a very large selection of human skulls that vary from mostly medical specimens to ornate decorated, they're not all real but they're those things that people would want to see in that time period. So you may not have been able to get access to a real human skull but you could get a medical study specimen that at the time would be real, it wasn't a full skeleton like we'd get today. So I've got little things, I've also got mummies in my cabinet of curiosities. I have a new mummy this year that's going to make its debut.
Stan Mallow
Whoa.
Seika Groves
Yes, so that's, yeah!
Stan Mallow
That's great. And you're also, while talking about the mummies there, you have days in there where you will do unwrap mummies.
Seika Groves
I do, I do this. It's done in a museum environment, so much like in the Victorian era they would've done what we call parlor mummy unwrapping so if you had money, and Egyptomania was a huge craze once they found, started the early onset of archeology, archeology as a word doesn't really come into our vernacular until the 1920's. Prior to that it was known as being an antiquarian but the concepts of archeology were being built. So there came that period when everything from Egypt was just flooding the market, people were going to Egypt and bringing things home. So that's kind of my setup for the Victorian mummy unwrappings is based on those wealthy people in that time period who would literally pay money to have someone of 'science' come into their home and unwrap a mummy for all of their guests. So I do do that, it's become a little infamous in the last little while...
Stan Mallow
Yeah, so I hear.
Seika Groves
Some people get really offended by it, and it's educational, right. So there's a lot of respect there and there's a lot of love that goes into what I do. I do it because I think that people should know what their past was but I also think that these kinds of things shouldn't be lost in history because it's important for us to understand that without this stuff moving forward we're never gonna really know what was the right or wrong. I mean, unwrapping a mummy in your parlor definitely wasn't the right thing to do but it was a thing that was done, right? So I do it. And I did bring...
Stan Mallow
Yes!
Seika Groves
So we can bring him on... I brought Harvey.
Stan Mallow
Harvey.
Seika Groves
Harvey, yes. Harvey is one of my mummies and he's the one that creeps people out the most.
Stan Mallow
Okay, perfect for the Paranormal Yakker show. Okay, that is Harvey?
Seika Groves
So this is Harvey. Oops, Harvey likes to kind of roll over on his side if I don't hold onto him.
Stan Mallow
And what's the history with Harvey?
Seika Groves
Harvey is a cat mummy. And Harvey is really symbolic of that surge in the, around the 10th dynasty, where Bastet the cat goddess became very popular. And men didn't worship her, it was a completely a woman's thing. And it was mostly for fertility because cats are able to literally have large amounts of kittens many many times, the idea here was that these cats were offered to the goddess Bastet with prayers in hopes that women would be able to have a child or maybe even multiple children in their life. And we look at it now as being horrific. These cats were mostly bred for this purpose.
Stan Mallow
Specifically for that purpose?
Seika Groves
Specifically for this purpose. So, and we have to know and understand too that in this time period cats were not house pets, people did not keep them as pets. So they were often in the streets in places like Cairo or Thebes, but they weren't kept as pets. So people weren't really bringing them into their house like we do today. They were used to keep vermin down and I'm sure there were people that fed them and petted them you know, maybe the odd person took them in, but for the most part these cats, those cats, would've been very different from these cats. These cats were raised specifically for this purpose. And you would go to the temple or to a priest in the marketplace or somebody selling them in the marketplace and you would buy one and you would take it to the temple and you would pay money to have it sacrificed to Bastet and when it was prepared and ready they would bring the cat to you and you could bring it to the temple and you would give it to the priest and they would do the ritual for you.
Stan Mallow
Are there any rituals that you do with it to this day? Like would be used for fertility if somebody wants to be with child, would they do that? Or is it just a curiosity?
Seika Groves
I mean, for me no. Harvey is just, he's a curiosity. I don't use him for those purposes. Mostly I don't use any of the mummies for those purposes because first of all they're fragile and it's not something that I want people to handle all the time. So he stays in his little box for the most part on display and people can look at him, and kids will often want to touch him because you can see there is a little bit of hair still and there's some whiskers on him as well...
Stan Mallow
Amazing.
Seika Groves
...that are still sort of attached, yeah.
Stan Mallow
How it is this perserved.
Seika Groves
Yeah, so you don't want to have a lot of handling and touching.
Stan Mallow
No, you don't.
Seika Groves
And the one thing with him is that he was never fully, well when I got him, he was never wrapped right up. So I didn't unwrap him, he's just this way.
Stan Mallow
What do you think is the reason for that? Why would they do that?
Seika Groves
Oh, he probably was wrapped up I'm sure.
Stan Mallow
Oh, okay, it's just over time.
Seika Groves
Just over time people unwrapped him and now he's in my collection and like I say I have a very nice box that he resides in.
Stan Mallow
Because I know of many of the items you have in there and it's like phenomenal, it's great!
Seika Groves
Right, and I mean I could bring a lot but what're we gonna do with them all right?
Stan Mallow
Mhm.
Seika Groves
But he's always fascinating and the funny thing is, like I said, I have him and I have Bob who is our infamous Egyptian mummy that we use for the unwrapping and I have a new mummy named Peat.
Stan Mallow
You give them all names?
Seika Groves
Um, well that's the funny thing. Bob got his name from a little boy when we were at a conference and he didn't really have a name and he yelled out "Bob!" and he was about six and we thought "well, that's kinda cute" and stayed but then it had this weird crossover because 'Bab,' that pronunciation with more of an 'a' sound is the entrance to the other world or another life.
Stan Mallow
Yeah.
Seika Groves
So it was sort of an interesting... It was just supposed to be, that's the way we look at it. Harvey, he just got the name Harvey. A friend of mine sort of went "Harvey the cat!" and I was like "okay" and it stuck. And then Peat is literally Peat as in P-E-A-T because he is a Peat Bog mummy, so he's a bog mummy. So a sacrificial bog mummy and we named him Peat and he will boggle your mind!
Stan Mallow
That's great. Do you have any idea about the age?
Seika Groves
I would say for the most part the mummies that I have are actually, Peat's the oldest one now. Bob is somewhere around 2000 years, around the time of you know Jesus and that. He's actually a Greek mummy in Egypt. So when the Ptolemaic period, when the Greeks were in Egypt, that's his era. This cat is probably before that but probably not too much before that because the cult of Bastet continued through even in that time, even when the Romans were in Egypt. So there was that. And Peat is a little bit older than that, we don't know exactly how old Peat is but it's Iron Age. So we're probably going back to 3000 years at least.
Stan Mallow
Wow, what a collection, wow.
Seika Groves
Yeah, so, super happy to be debuting Peat this year
Stan Mallow
I'm sure the ROM would like to have some of those artifacts.
Seika Groves
Oh, the ROM has a lot of their own. When I used to work there, there's many many there.
Stan Mallow
I was there a few weeks ago, it's pretty good too, but what you have is pretty darn good.
Seika Groves
Mine are... Mine are a little different.
Stan Mallow
Uh-huh, and the history of them too.
Seika Groves
Yes.
Stan Mallow
You're so good with that so that's great too.
Seika Groves
Yeah, so, I'll just put Harvey over here.
Stan Mallow
Sure. Now you conduct haunted history tours.
Seika Groves
Yes.
Stan Mallow
Where do you have those tours, and why did you choose the locations that you did?
Seika Groves
Well, originally our tours used to be in Hamilton when we lived in Hamilton, Ontario, and so our tours were there. And we had history tours, we had pirate Great Lakes tours, haunted tours, and when we moved to the Niagara region we just naturally moved the tours to those areas. So that's really why they are the way they are, it's where we live so it's easy for us, but we now have a tour in Port Colburne that we do and then we have a tour in Bridgeburg which is Fort Eerie and the Bridgeburg BIA actually asked us to create a tour specifically for their downtown Bridgeburg location.
Stan Mallow
And why the haunted areas, or the areas with paranormal activity, in those locations that you tell the people about or take them to?
Seika Groves
Well, I mean Port Colburne is a really interesting space because it still has a lot of activity there. Where we do the tour there is mostly along the lake and we talk about a lot of different folklore there, some indigenous paranormal folklore. I mean we would call it paranormal, indigenous people it's just their stories, and then we go into the cemetery there because I have a very personal story from an occurrence and the person that I speak about is buried in the cemetery there. In Bridgeburg, it has some amazing stories. Bridgeburg is a hotbed for ghost stories. There just seems to be such a unique amount of stories in such a small little area. It's sort of funny, people always go on about Niagara and the lake's ghost stories and then I'm like "oh, Bridgeburg has so many more."
Stan Mallow
Just for point of information because happily the Paranormal Yakker audience is worldwide...
Seika Groves
Yes, they are!
Stan Mallow
For those who are down to find Port Colborne, geography-wise where is it located?
Seika Groves
We're about 20 minutes from Niagara Falls.
Stan Mallow
Okay, that everybody knows.
Seika Groves
Yeah, and even Bridgeburg the same thing. Bridgeburg is right where the Peace Bridge is, so that crossing between Ontario and Buffalo, New York. And Bridgeburg is just really on the other side of the Peace Bridge. So it's called Fort Eerie but the little town itself was known as Bridgeburg. In the Niagara region.
Stan Mallow
It's funny there's the Niagara Falls, Canada, Niagara Falls, United States. Fort Eerie, Canada, Fort Eerie, United States. And you are there.
Seika Groves
Yeah, we're always there.
Stan Mallow
Now what I said earlier in my introduction to you about you being a true renaissance person... true. Because you're involved in so many things and you are so good at all of them.
Seika Groves
Oh, thank you.
Stan Mallow
I have to ask you this. Now, you're a paranormal investigator.
Seika Groves
Yes.
Stan Mallow
And you're an award-winning psychic medium.
Seika Groves
That too.
Stan Mallow
I know that. Now, do you use your psychic and mediumship gifts during paranormal investigations? If you do, in what way do you employ them? Because there are paranormal investigators who are very scientific and there are the psychics. You're a mesh, you're a blend of both of them.
Seika Groves
Right, right yes.
Stan Mallow
How does one compliment the other or use the other?
Seika Groves
You know, you're right, I'm sometime my own worse skeptic in that respect. Because the science side of me needs to have, you know, an answer, it's like "What is that? Why is that happening?" But then that medium side of me is receiving the information. So when I'm on an investigation I just rely on myself for the most part. Sometimes I'll play with equipment, it's not very often, usually it's to verify. But for the most part I just use myself as the conduit. I find that if I'm open when I go into a location and the one thing I do when I go to a location is I don't want to know the history of the location. I don't want to know the previous stories or the ghosts or any of that. I want to go in clean and then use my own ability. And I think that way if I can come out with what I may or may not get, because sometimes I don't get anything, and I often like to go with another person who's a medium because I find with mediumship it's a vibrational thing. It really is based on energy vibrations so if the other person is vibrating at a different level than me they may pick up on things that I don't and vice versa. So I find for the most part I tend to pick up on really tragic things. It's just me.
Stan Mallow
Just you.
Seika Groves
So I will pick up on those people that you know for lack of better terminology, have suffered mental illness breakdowns or they've been murdered or they're murderers or whatever the case may be... Children who have died perhaps a tragic death, but I don't often pick up on children. So you know it's just I know my own limits and my own, so I like to travel with another medium if that's the case and then bring equipment in to verify or just have another level of investigative ability because I can't do everything.
Stan Mallow
Yeah.
Seika Groves
I mean, I wish I could but I can't.
Stan Mallow
But I like the message how you said you go about doing it in that not going to know anything. Because you know I also go on paranormal investigations myself too, and yes I don't want any new information by anything, but go where it's cold, it's raw, you pick up what you pick up.
Seika Groves
Yes and I mean for me and for a lot of us that do do this we do like it that way, we don't really want to know the stories and that because it can subconsciously affect you right?
Stan Mallow
Absolutely.
Seika Groves
So I do like to just have as little information as possible. I know where I'm going, I know why I'm going there, but that's really all I want to know.
Stan Mallow
Mhm. Now have any paranormal investigations you've been part of stand out over others, and if so what are they?
Seika Groves
Yeah, actually the very first time we did the paranormal investigation at the Bell Tower which is where we hold the paranormal conference...
Stan Mallow
Which I was so happy to be a part of, thank you for inviting me!
Seika Groves
Thank you, yes.
Stan Mallow
You did a great job on that.
Seika Groves
And we want you back next year.
Stan Mallow
Excellent.
Seika Groves
Of course. But that place was just off the charts, crazy the things that happened. And what we did with that was we had only just met the owners of the building and they had allowed us to come in and we talked about doing an investigation because the minute I walked in that place it was just... every hair on my body was just-
Stan Mallow
You felt it.
Seika Groves
Oh yeah. It was crazy. And so we talked to them and we agreed, so we decided to do a public investigation. Which meant that we opened it up to allow the public to come in. And there's a lot of people that don't agree with that. There's a lot of 'investigators' that don't want that. They think that it dirties the environment, it can give false results, et cetera, et cetera, but I think if you're a professional at what you do you know how to control your environment to a degree and to keep people under control and to also have just that opportunity of other people being able to pick up on things that you might not. Or you know their equipment, they might have things that you don't have. So I think that while we run our investigations very much in that way, I'm always about bringing people in. And again too, if you're new to the paranormal how are you going to learn if you don't have these kinds of opportunities? Right? You can go out there and you can do whatever you want but if you don't understand or know what you're doing or, it's just kind of like wandering around in the dark with your eyes closed, right? So I think this way it gives a lot of people an opportunity to come onboard. We're still very mindful of what we're doing, it's not a free for all, right?
Stan Mallow
Right.
Seika Groves
But the Bell Tower in that point we had 15 people on that investigation. And we spent a good half an hour briefing everyone in the beginning, giving them tools to use, different methods, explaining the different things so that they could understand them, but they were always with us. So they weren't off in another part of the building, you know running around and making noises that might be picked up by somebody else who's thinking "oh, there's a ghost on the third floor," or you know, "I hear footsteps," everybody stayed together. But we had such a crazy, crazy experience there. It was the most haunted building in terms of that investigation that I have ever been in.
Stan Mallow
Mhm.
Seika Groves
It was crazy, off the charts... The stuff that was happening.
Stan Mallow
I'm very supportive, of what you do, and I encourage you. Because sometimes in the field your, I don't know if it's elitism or ego or what, "Oh no, I can do it, you can't do it,"
Seika Groves
There's a lot of that.
Stan Mallow
No, you're giving them a chance to be part of it. Now going back to the Bell Tower.
Seika Groves
Mhm.
Stan Mallow
I know you did something there where people slept overnight over there.
Seika Groves
We did.
Stan Mallow
Anything special happen there? Did anybody experience anything?
Seika Groves
Um you know, that was, yeah. That was a fun night. We stayed over and we had about eight or nine people and we slept in the great hall so the rest of the building was locked down, so we didn't actually go out into, because we had the investigation before the sleepover. So we did the investigation through the building first and then for the night we were literally locked in the great hall. Which is a phenomenal room. Now, some people fell asleep and that's all they did.
Stan Mallow
Slept?
Seika Groves
They just slept. Myself, I at one point was woken up by the door just rattling like somebody was literally trying to get into the door, like turning the handle and shaking the door. And with us is one of the owners' good friends who also works in the building so we did have somebody with us who had keys but he was fast asleep, except when I woke up he woke up. And we both looked at each other and we both looked at the door and I'm telling you it was an experience for me where I don't scare but I was literally wondering who was trying to come through that door. And there was nobody there. Because when Mike went to check, there was nothing.
Stan Mallow
Did you pursue that afterwards? You just left it where it was?
Seika Groves
I just left it because I have a pretty good idea of who it was that was trying to come into the room at that time but you know it was very persistent for a good minute. It was quite long, it wasn't one of these momentary just you're half asleep and you hear a sound and you wake up and you don't hear it again. I was fully awake.
Stan Mallow
Did you ever experience the following, with somebody who was in your group, every so often you hear stories about people go to an area and it's haunted, there's paranormal phenomenon there, and that entity or whatever follows the people home afterwards?
Seika Groves
I've had that happen to me.
Stan Mallow
Yes?
Seika Groves
On probably two occasions.
Stan Mallow
Do you want to speak about it or leave it in the past?
Seika Groves
No, no, I'm just saying I've had it happen.
Stan Mallow
That always fascinates me when that entity follows you.
Seika Groves
Yes, we try to tell people now because I understand that it can happen, that we have to be very good about cleansing and asking those spirits or people, I just call them people, to remain where they are and to not come home on a journey with us. I had one for the better part of 10 years. I actually thought he was gone but apparently another medium friend of mine told me "no he's not gone, he's still with you, "he's just not being a pain in the rear "like he was for so many years." But yeah it's happened and it can be... But if they're drawn to your energy I believe, so if you're vibrating at a level that they are in tune with and feel comfortable with they can very well go home with you. So that's why it's important to set up parameters as well.
Stan Mallow
I'm glad you mention that, just as you did with Harvey and with all your things over there you do things, you unwrap with respect, I'm glad that you did mention the people in the audience who thinks they want to go with things, you've got to be respectful of whatever entity's out there.
Seika Groves
Always, always.
Stan Mallow
And ask their permission,
Seika Groves
Yes.
Stan Mallow
And speak with them, you know. You're not the bully, you appreciate they're coming to you.
Seika Groves
No and you know I'm glad you said that because there's a lot of shows where people are yelling at spirits or trying to anger them to get a reaction out of them and I am not of that. You know I believe that these were people.
Stan Mallow
Exactly.
Seika Groves
And so we need to be respectful of them. Whether they were good people or not so good people in their life, they don't change when they end up out here in the peripheral. They're still the same people. So if they're negative in life and they're not nice people, they're still gonna be the same, which means that by instigating or yelling at them you know you're not putting yourself in a good place but you're also not putting them in a place where they're gonna want to communicate with you. So even if they are not necessarily a nice person, you can still communicate with them. I've communicated with some spirits that people would be like, "Why are you talking to that? That's like really bad." And I'm like, "Well, they're still a person." And so maybe you need to understand why they're this way. I mean I protect myself, I'm very aware of it, I don't leave myself open to anything.
Stan Mallow
Again, that people know that, protect yourself.
Seika Groves
You have to protect yourself.
Stan Mallow
And most importantly, respect for whoever is out there that you want to go with.
Seika Groves
So, you wouldn't go up to somebody in your day to day life and yell and scream at them in their face, so you know it's the same respect when you're doing you know. And if, and we explain all of this when we have people on public investigations, and at no time do I want you to scream and run away either.
Stan Mallow
Mhm.
Seika Groves
Right, so if you're afraid, then find one of the leaders of your group or somebody that's experienced and let them know that you're afraid. And you can spend the rest of your evening with that person so that you feel safe because you want to feel safe but at the same time you don't want to traumatize the energy that's out there either.
Stan Mallow
Right.
Seika Groves
Those people, those spirits.
Stan Mallow
I'm very pleased you touched on that.
Seika Groves
Oh, thanks.
Stan Mallow
Okay, because some people go "Oh this is great I can just go out there," and no.
Seika Groves
Well you can but you know there's no guarantee as to what's gonna happen, right.
Stan Mallow
Repercussions, sure.
Seika Groves
And you get a lot of... A lot of negative things can come from that, right so.
Stan Mallow
Right, now I've got to ask you this.
Seika Groves
Sure.
Stan Mallow
If someone wants to go on one of your haunted history tours, have you as a guest speaker at their event, learn about other projects you're involved with, I know there's a million of that, be it your paranormal podcast or the Southern Ontario-Western New York Paranormal Conference which you host and which I was so pleased to be a part of,
Seika Groves
Thank you.
Stan Mallow
You did a great job with it. How do they go about doing that? How do they get in contact with you?
Seika Groves
It's really easy, all they need to do is go online to half penny dreadfuls, with an s, so halfpennydreadfuls.com.
Stan Mallow
Halfpennydradfuls.com
Seika Groves
Everything's up there. So that website culminates all of my things.
Stan Mallow
Perfect, perfect, perfect. Because again, I know if I went down a list that you're involved with we'd be here for a full hour on that.
Seika Groves
We would. All weekend.
Stan Mallow
But they've got you on that website so that's great.
Seika Groves
Yes.
Stan Mallow
And anybody and their audience, you know if they're interested in anything with the paranormal or getting tours, you do a great job.
Seika Groves
Thank you, thank you.
Stan Mallow
I want to compliment you on that. So, Seika Groves and Missus Mooney, I want to thank you both for being my guest on the Paranormal Yakker and I very much look forward to when our paths cross again and I know they will. Thank you for being a great guest.
Seika Groves
Thank you so much Stan, I appreciate it. And you should come out to one of the mummy unwrappings. You're invited.
Stan Mallow
You want my email?
Seika Groves
I do.
Stan Mallow
Okay.
Seika Groves
I will invite you.
Stan Mallow
There are witnesses here.
Seika Groves
There's witnesses all right.
Stan Mallow
Okay, I look forward to it.
Seika Groves
All good.
Stan Mallow
Thank you, you've been a delightful guest.
Seika Groves
Thanks.