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Season 1 Episode 18

Kevin Killen. Ghosts And Me.
Kevin Killen is the author of Ghosts And Me. In his book, he explores numerous paranormal experiences he has had. This ranges from hearing phantom footsteps to encountering shadow people. In his interview with Stan Mallow, the Paranormal Yakker, Kevin not only talks about these experiences but a number of others. This includes his encounter with a ghost as a young child, what it was like living in a haunted house, and his relationship with a witch. He also details his EVP, Electronic Voice Phenomenon experiences; and explains to Paranormal Yakker viewers how he was able to capture the voices of departed spirits. Further, Kevin elaborates on his paranormal experiences in Virginia at a haunted historic battlefield, an old haunted theatre, and various haunted houses he was in. He also talks about the problems he has had to deal with being an empath and what it’s like working in an environment that at times is rampant with paranormal activity.

Transcript of video Interview

Stan Mallow
Hi, everyone, I'm Stan Mallow. Welcome to Paranormal Yakker. My guest on today's show, who I'll be yakking with, is author Kevin Killen, I'll be discussing with him his book, "Ghosts and Me". Kevin Killen, welcome to Paranormal Yakker. Now Kevin, your book explores, numerous paranormal experiences you've had and ranges from a phantom footsteps, to shadow people. Now I know, you first encountered a ghost at a very young age. How old were you when that happened? Where were you? And what were the circumstances, surrounding that encounter?
Kevin Killen
Sure, I was actually about five years old and I was living in Evanston Illinois, which is right outside of Chicago. At a time my father was a journalist, we lived in a really old, one of those turn of the century, really old houses, that you'd think would be haunted. So he took my older brothers to a basketball game, I think it was over out in St. Louis, Missouri, and it was just me and my mother. And we were downstairs eating dinner, and I just think we heard footsteps upstairs, and I turned to my mom and I said, "Who's that?" And she said, "That's my little boy." And that confused me because I was the only little boy in the house that I knew of. So, she told me later that she said that because she was afraid somebody had broken in, and didn't want me to get scared. So that was my first experience of that, but I just think, as I tell the story and relate it to people, I can still hear the footsteps, and I can go back to that time, and it's still vivid in my mind of my first encounter.
Stan Mallow
How did you react at that encounter? You were such a young person at that time. Did you share with anyone, be it friends or family members? And if you did, were you believed?
Kevin Killen
At that time, I don't believe I did. I may have said something to my brothers, and they just laughed and blew me off, because I was the baby of the family, and most of them were, pretty much older than I was. So they were just kinda like, "Ah, stupid little kid", you know that kind of thing. I didn't really tell 'em till later on, when I started actually getting into the paranormal in high school. And then, when I was actually having incidents with footsteps in my home, in Falls Church, Virginia growing up. So, I kinda kept it to myself for a long time.
Stan Mallow
Amongst your paranormal experiences were, as I previously mentioned, hearing phantom footsteps, encountering shadow people. Could you elaborate on those experiences?
Kevin Killen
Sure, I was in Falls Church, Virginia, is where I grew up. I consider myself a Virginian, even though I was born in the Philippines and kind of bopped all over. But I spent the majority of my formative years in Virginia, and I'm actually located in Virginia now. So basically we had a... It wasn't a very old house, maybe forty five years old, but it had wooden floors, and I was in the master bedroom and I would hear footsteps nearly every night. And it was like, somebody would walk up to my bed and walk around, then walk away from my it. And this continued almost nightly. So, I'd tell my mother and my mother would kind of laugh it off. But I think my mother knew more than she let on and she never talked about it much, but, she later relayed that, while she didn't think the house was haunted, she did have some weird noise experiences, later on, in the home. So as I got older, and then got into high school, I got really into a lot of the paranormal books, and started reading a lot of stuff. And one of the books that I read was about I believe he was a birdwatcher, and I wanna say, Sweden, his name was Rodeeve, Rodive. And he wrote a book, where he actually was in the forest, collecting bird sounds and he actually picked up voices. And he couldn't understand that because he was like, "There's nobody around me". So he kind of was like an early E.V.P'er without even knowing it. So I read his book. And I said, "Hey you know that's kinda cool, let's go ahead and try that" And for some of the younger audience members, back in the day when I was in school, we had these things called tape recorders. And I had one of those big boomboxes that had detachable speakers. And they had two tapes you could dub and certain things like that. So, I basically found myself alone one day and said, "You know what, I'm gonna see if I can get something". So I went ahead and hit play and record, and asked if there was anybody here, to show me. And went ahead and went to a friend's house, and for about forty-five minutes to an hour or whatever it was, and came back and replayed the tape, and went ahead and hit play. And got nothing, mostly white noise, until about the very end of the tape, where it was actually something drumming on top of the, the the radio. And I was like, "What's this? "Is there's nobody in this house." And then all of a sudden at the very end I got this very guttural low voice said, "I have shown you, ha-ha." And of course that scared the hell out of me. And I about ran out of the house, but it showed me, and it actually responded to my question, and from there that really got me into the realm of the paranormal, 'cause I really wanted to know what that was.
Stan Mallow
While in school you lived in a haunted house, did you know it was haunted prior to moving in? What were the ghost or ghosts in the house like? What was your interaction with them?
Kevin Killen
No actually, I did not. I'd been living in another house with my roommate, who I moved to that house with. And we were at the end of our lease, and we decided we really didn't want this house anymore. So we were kind of looking for another place to stay. And he mentioned that he had a friend of his, who had a house, not too far from where we were now, close to the school. And he said, "Hey you know they're renting it for this", he said, "Hey, do you wanna come with? "There's an extra bedroom." I said, "Okay sure, why not?" So at the time I had no idea, but found out very quickly, that there was some things going on, that we weren't necessarily prepared for. I would find myself... He was a bartender, and he would work till three, four, five in the morning. Which left me in the house by myself a lot of the time. So I would hear footsteps, I would hear the door open and close, in the bathroom. I would hear the door going to the outside open. Immediately thinking, "Okay well he must be home, "so lemme go see what's up." The door would open and then, would go to the bathroom door would close. And I'd think, "Okay well he came in "and went to the bathroom." And then an hour later, the bathroom door is still closed. So I'd go and knock on the door and check if he was okay, and he wasn't there. I said, "Okay, that's interesting." At that time and you're like, "Jeez, am I really hearing all this stuff?" And think that I'd left the cupboards-
Stan Mallow
But maybe a poltergeist is around now. Who knows, they're making themselves known to ya. So if you gonna answer that, or-
Kevin Killen
Yeah, actually I was gonna tell you Stan, that usually does happen when I do these interviews,
Stan Mallow
Oh okay.
Kevin Killen
Audio and video do kinda mess up. So I repeatedly tell people it is me. So it probably is, just kinda bare with me. They like to watch and interact in their own way.
Stan Mallow
Sure, that's good. Now, at one time you dated a witch. What was that relationship like? How did it differ from say, dating a nurse or a lawyer? Did you ever partake in any rituals or ceremonies with her?
Kevin Killen
Yeah, it was really interesting. And I was actually glad that I did. Because she actually taught me a lot of things about new age things and paranormal things. And I think she-
Stan Mallow
Okay again, we just lost you again. I think your friend... I want your friends to know, I like them with you please let us have this, thank you. Okay, so if you just want to take that part of it, you said it was interesting, and up to the part where she taught you a lot about new age.
Kevin Killen
Sure, so yeah it was really interesting. Like I said, I think she opened me up a little bit. She taught me a lot of things about the craft, and how things work, and basically to kind of hone my skills, that I didn't even know I had at the time. But then actually, I had all these questions about why this happened and why that happened. And she actually did teach me a lot as far as, this is why this is happening, and this is why that is happening. And I did partake in some ritualistic things later on, towards the end of our relationship, when she actually started a coven. So, I did partake in that a little bit. But, yeah it was really interesting, and like I said we're really good friends still.
Stan Mallow
Oh that's great! Now, EVP, electronic voice phenomenon capturing the voice of the departed spirits, is something I find fascinating. You were successful at doing that. Previously you mentioned something about doing it with your tape recorder. Now how did that come about? Were you ever able, and how were you able to capture, were there instances, where you were able to capture it? And how did you go about doing that?
Kevin Killen
Are you referring to the first time, when I talked to my first one? I had a subsequent one.
Stan Mallow
The subsequent one would be good, yeah.
Kevin Killen
Okay, the subsequent one, sorry about that. Yeah, I was actually with the same girl. We had moved back to Pennsylvania from Virginia. And we lived in an old mill house, I believe it was. It was an old mining house actually, maybe. So yeah, we heard some things and things had gone on, and I knew the place was old. So, I found myself alone one day and I said "You know what, I'm gonna put a recorder." Just a standard handheld recorder, it was a little Panasonic. I said, "I'm gonna take it down to the basement and see what I can get." So I think, "Maybe there might be something down there." So I went ahead and did another EVP session, didn't say anything this time, just let the recorder run, got back, took it upstairs and listened to it. And I heard some very interesting things. There was a lot of banging noise and a lot of... We had boards down there, I don't know where they were from. I guess the landlord had to have them in there for something. And they were... It sounded like somebody was breaking stuff up and throwing them around in the basement. And I knew nobody was down there. We had animals, but they certainly wouldn't go downstairs or do that. so it was-this was a daytime EVP. That's why one thing I tell people is that, people seem to think you can only get this stuff at night. Well that's not true, they're everywhere anytime. So, and that's proof to me that, you can get this anytime, coz I recorded this is about eleven o'clock in the morning, on a weekday. So I went downstairs and looked around, there was nothing out of place. There was nothing down there that would have made these noises. And I went outside thinking maybe one of the neighbors? There was nothing there, I was totally alone. So, it was just another one of those head scratchers.
Stan Mallow
Wow, now in your book you write about a number of paranormal experiences in Virginia. This includes a haunted battlefield, a haunted theater and haunted homes. Could you elaborate a bit on those experiences?
Kevin Killen
Sure, absolutely um... Those experiences all happened in the same vicinity. I was living in Winchester Virginia. Which for any history buffs or geography buffs, that's the Shenandoah Valley. And there was a lot of Civil War history that took place out there. As a matter of fact Winchester, I believe changed hands between the north and the south about 75 times during the war. And they actually have a museum out there that is Stonewall Jackson's headquarters. And you know, coz basically they used to commandeer houses when they come into an area. And generals would set up and things like that, so we lived in a duplex there. And we lived near Fort Collier battlefield. And one night we were me and Cheryl, we're out there and we were basically just hanging out on a summer night. And we were hearing Dixie play. It was like three or four in the morning and we're like "Dixie playing on a flute... Well, "Who's playing Dixie at four in the morning?" That's crazy, nobody would do that. So then the next day I went around and inquired, so I was a journalist at the time, so I knew a lot of people in the area. And when I'd say " Hey, you see anybody play Dixie at four in the morning? "Is there any crazy re-enactments that go on around here, "at that time?" And everyone was like, "No, there's nobody doing that." So I was like, "Okay that's really interesting." Because, obviously Dixie being the song of the south essentially. And a few weeks later in the same place, we were outside, I used to be a smoker and we were out there smoking on the patio. And we heard distinctive booms, as if like a cannon was going off. And we were like, "What is this? "This is just crazy!" So we're up there thinking that we're just hearing things. But we both heard it distinctly, it was just as if a cannon would go off during a re-enactment, or anything that you would hear in the army or in the military. So again I was, you know went and inquired and of course nothing was going on. And I was like, "Jeez what is this I have no idea" but then you know after doing some research and everything and finding out things about the civil war. And learning that we had lived near a battlefield. And I didn't even know that I lived near Fort Collier till much later after we moved. So that's where that happened. It was just very bizarre that these things happened at three and four in the morning. So you know and again, if you, if you study the paranormal then you understand it. That's one of the things that's supposedly happening, is that they play over and over. And you know that's kind of their thing. And I think that's what happened there. There was just you know, it was just their re-enactment of the, of that battle. And we actually got to capture it.
Stan Mallow
What about the theater? Was it a theater with an old theater a new theater or of historical significance?
Kevin Killen
Yes, it was a very old theater. Excuse me. We actually had a restaurant. Or an inn , I'm sorry an inn attached to it. It was called the Wayside Theater and Inn. And it dated back to the 1700's. So the theater and the inn have been both around since that time. Not in use as that particular thing. But yeah it was, it had been around for a very very long time and it had it's own resident spirit George. That would uh mess with people and one of the seats would go down by itself during play rehearsals and everyone would say "Oh that's George." You know and if you ever go there it's just a very old creepy kind of thing. You know you feel there's like, there's just a an energy in the building. And like I said, it's great for history buffs or theater buffs. It's just a beautiful beautiful old place. But it was interesting to go there and actually talk with the theater director and actually pick up some things.
Stan Mallow
That's great 'cause I know the energy of all theaters. They definitely don't want to leave that place when they're there. Now, in your work you council people who are recovering from drug and alcohol addictions. In your workplace, you and your co-workers have experienced paranormal activity. Why do you think that is? Is it the physical building itself? The energy of the recovering addicts or something else?
Kevin Killen
I'm sorry Stan, the first couple sentences I thought there was a blank. I didn't get anything after it.
Stan Mallow
Okay, I'll repeat it then. It's a good thing there's editing. Could you hear me now?
Kevin Killen
Yes
Stan Mallow
Good, okay, if you can't just let me know, okay? In your work you council people who are recovering from drug and alcohol addictions. In your workplace you and your co-workers have experienced paranormal activity. Why do you think that is? Is it the physical building itself, the energy of the recovering addicts or something else?
Kevin Killen
I think it's a combination of both. The place where, it's a pretty old building. And then it's built on swampland. And I jokingly call it wild kingdom, because we've had all sorts of, almost any animal short of a bear. I probably shouldn't say this, because next thing I know next time I go to work we'll have a bear show up. But we've had all sorts of animals. As a matter of fact one night a few years ago I actually came, I work nights and one of the things I do is I check the beds. So I have to come down a hallway to go back to the staff office. There was at least a seven foot, eight foot black snake blocking me. Right in the middle of the hall it went right across the hall. I couldn't even move until that thing moved, and it was about two or three o'clock in the morning. So that was really something. But I think it's a lot, it's a bit of everything a lot of people have a lot of negativity when they go in there. And obviously their backstories, most of them are horrible. So they bring a lot of negative energy in with them. So I think that just has a tendency to build like any other kind of energy. And it just kind of saturates the place. Is what it does now. It's just kind of like at times walking through pea soup. Walking through the community, its just it's been that thick with negative energy.
Stan Mallow
Now it seems as though you are a magnet for attracting spirits. Why do you think they seem to attach themselves to you?
Kevin Killen
Well I've been learning lately or actually for the last couple years that I'm actually an empath. I have an empathic ability. And I think that's one of the main reasons that I do have the spirit attraction. Is because of my abilities. I am becoming more open as they say. Or woke as they say. I'm actually finding myself more and actually these things are getting more powerful as I go along. And also I think that I attribute that to my Celtic background. Being Irish American, I think that has a lot to do with it. And I actually mentioned that in the book that I do believe that a lot of this, I have Irish German blood in me, that I think goes back to the old country. And I think that has a lot to do with it.
Stan Mallow
How do you handle being an empath? Especially dealing with people with a lot of problems you know within themselves? One of the things I find with a lot of people who are empaths is, to try to distance themselves from people. They just absorb energy when it's around them. How do you handle that?
Kevin Killen
Well you know that's actually a really good question Stan. And I'll bring this up because I'm dealing with this now. One of my brothers died two weeks ago.
Stan Mallow
Well, condolences.
Kevin Killen
And thank you. And I've been named the executor to his estate because I'm the only one in the area. I wasn't very close with him, we were estranged for the last five years. But again, I was the closest one in the proximity to him, so I'm taking care of a lot of the arrangements and things like that. Well it's been a really rough two weeks and I've found myself a lot, worn down. Because I'm not doing this, I'm doing the interviews I'm doing the book thing, I'm doing the work things. So I actually had a friend of mine from another show who's a psychic. I was telling him about you know what's going on and he said-
Stan Mallow
Excuse me, could you hear me?
Kevin Killen
Yeah, you're cutting in and out pretty bad.
Stan Mallow
Yeah well you are too. Okay It's, again your spirit friends are really showing themselves over here. It's got to the point I lost you at the point when you were talking about your psychic friend that you went to and what you're experiencing now and then from there on.
Kevin Killen
Okay, yeah so she basically gave me some grounding techniques and some protection techniques to kind of wall myself off. Because I'm running down because again it's just I went to the funeral home the other day, and they about knocked me over. Because I was just feeling all of the energy in that place. And so she gave me some grounding techniques. Honestly it's really difficult for me to do that because I find myself getting bad headaches, when I try to block a lot of this energy. And that's typical, so I'm just learning how to do some grounding techniques and things like that to try to stave that off. But it's not easy for me honestly.
Stan Mallow
No I know that I believe that 'cause I know people that I know who are empaths, it's very very difficult dealing with that. Especially as things get close to you, like your brother. It's family member over there, it has to be draining. But it's good that your friend gave you grounding techniques. It's good would you want to share any of them?
Kevin Killen
Well sure, yeah. Before I do that I just want to mention one thing. Again as I said earlier that I'm estranged from my brother and when I was doing this in the process of moving his stuff and to meet people he knew. Without knowing who I was, other than his brother I had numerous people say, "Hey you know, he's still here. "We feel him, his spirit's still here" And I was just like, "Wow they don't even." And I was like, "I know he is, he's watching us." But they didn't know that before, and then I told them who I was and wrote the book and everything. And they're like, "Wow, I really believe in that stuff." And I said that was amazing that you guys picked up on that. Because I knew that the minute I hit the door. So that was pretty interesting.
Stan Mallow
Very emotional, yes.
Kevin Killen
That I had total strangers coming up to me saying that we can still feel him and that he's gonna be missed.
Stan Mallow
I'm glad you shared that because I think it's gonna help a lot of people out there who wonder sometimes, you know does the spirit live on? And the answer of course is yes spirits live on.
Kevin Killen
They definitely do. The one thing with most people who don't do that then again it took me a long time, to learn. And I'm still learning. Again I really know nothing honestly. I'm still learning, I'm still trying to figure this all out. But one thing I do know now is that, when the world gives you signs, listen. Because there are definite signs here, that I know he was here because there were things, only to him that showed up. And I knew he was here. So it was just, and it happened that, I know with a lot going on a lot of people don't do that. But it's something that you have to learn to do. And it took me a long time to understand that as a matter of fact listen to your gut, it's such a good thing because it's true. And I've actually lost money not listening to my gut when the numbers hit, the lottery. And this is a true story so, you know I've learned to say oh, if I say something I might say, "Hey that might make a good lottery number" I'll go play that lottery number because I didn't do that before and it hit the next day, so I learned my lesson.
Stan Mallow
And you still are so that's good. And now, what advice would you give to anyone who had an encounter with a ghost and is not sure how to handle it? Should they keep it to themselves to avoid being ridiculed? Should they share it with someone else or what? What's your advice to them?
Kevin Killen
I would, I think it's like any other therapy and this is something that we all struggle with, myself included. Before I even wrote this book, and even while I was writing this book and even before it got published, I was struggling with that. Like people are going to come out and then say you're nuts. And that's okay because you know, we all are, a little bit. I mean I'll, you know, hey I've got a couple degrees. And I'm this and that I'm you can't be normal and do what I do. It works over nights. What normal person works nights, right? But now seriously if they can find somebody that they trust to speak with, definitely. Because again I think that it's very therapeutic and cathartic for most people because a lot of people do not know how to handle this, myself included and it's taken me all this time. And again if they can't find anybody before we wrap up and I'll give them that. Before we go I'll leave you my direct email, which I love to talk to people about anything but especially the paranormal and I do this for anything and so it's actually in my book. My email is my book. But yeah feel free to hit me up and talk, talk to me because I can maybe try to guide people through it. Or at least relate to their experience.
Stan Mallow
I gotta tell you, what you just said is the perfect segue to what I wanted to ask you. Now Kevin, should any of our viewers order your book "Ghost and Me." How do they go about doing that? And you said you also wanted to give out your email. You wanna hear from them, sure. Why not do it.
Kevin Killen
Yes, great, you can order on Amazon.com. You can go to Ozarkmountain.com, that's my publishing company. You can go to Barnesandnoble.com, Walmart.com, pretty much any .com that sells books I do believe does have it. Barnes and Noble I believe and Walmart used to have them on the shelves. I guess in some places they're allowed in, I guess. But those are the best places, is my website and Amazon to get the book. And I guess they have both an E version and paperback.
Stan Mallow
And you also said that you wanted to give out your email address?
Kevin Killen
Yes, let me give out my email address and my Instagram account. They can hit me up either way.
Stan Mallow
Sure.
Kevin Killen
My email is k-k-I-l-l-e-n b as in boy t as in Tom Kkillenbt@gmail.com, and they can also hit me up at Irish, I-r-i-s-h, kev, K-E-V 7147.
Stan Mallow
Perfect, Kevin I thank you for being my guest on Paranormal Yakker. I look forward to interview you again when you complete your next book, which I know you're working on one.
Stan Mallow
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